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Iron Cat said:
So what happened here, engine builder didn't plastiguage this mfr or what?
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I don't remember the exact scenario, 89 Fox will have to chime in on it, but there were at least two engine builders involved for some reason, I guess? Anyhow, the last builder told 89 Fox that the previous builder used the wrong bearings, so he changed them. He did NOT tell Fox what was wrong with them, or what he put in the motor? We have the bearings, and while I did not write anything down, it is easy enough to read the info on the back of the bearings. Once the block is all cleaned, we will take the necessary measurements and get the correct bearings for the desired clearance.

Plastigage is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, but anybody that builds more than a couple of motors should have quality measuring tools.
 
RacinDuallie said:
You ever deal with graffite impregnated rope water seals in a DC electric motor pump setup to flow up 15 stories? And have a backup pump, and emergency pump? All with rope seals? Been there done that. Next?
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That sounds like what was in the packing gland on the prop shaft in a 30' Bayliner I worked on 50 years ago. Was that rope smaller in diameter than the rope seal in a 216 Chevy? I recall because it was on a weekend we couldn't get the official rope for the shaft seal and tried to use car engine rope seal but it was too big in diameter so we used some kind of twisted teflon rope like stuff and it worked OK.
 
You know this thread is kind of like going out with your buddies having a few beers and then running into a couple old coworkers that were annoying as fuck.
Pretty soon you're hammering back beers and next thing you know you look around after your harassing those old coworkers and you're in a fucking gay bar getting picked up on by some dude old enough to where his dick doesn't even get hard anymore.

Yeah, the thread had great intentions and the guys with those great intentions succeeded but boy there's a lot of homosexualness in here.
 
Iron Cat said:
If you've never looked at something you posted an said to yourself, damn i shouldn't have posted that, I look like a 5 year old, you should do that right now..
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What is it that makes you think yours are the only words that matter?
 
Mitch H said:
I don't remember the exact scenario, 89 Fox will have to chime in on it, but there were at least two engine builders involved for some reason, I guess? Anyhow, the last builder told 89 Fox that the previous builder used the wrong bearings, so he changed them. He did NOT tell Fox what was wrong with them, or what he put in the motor? We have the bearings, and while I did not write anything down, it is easy enough to read the info on the back of the bearings. Once the block is all cleaned, we will take the necessary measurements and get the correct bearings for the desired clearance.

Plastigage is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, but anybody that builds more than a couple of motors should have quality measuring tools.
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That's a bummer, I been following his build for a while.i had a similar situation to his many years ago, some of these builders shouldn't be building a sandwich let alone an engine.
 
Iron Cat said:
That's a bummer, I been following his build for a while.i had a similar situation to his many years ago, some of these builders shouldn't be building a sandwich let alone an engine.
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We have a few of those around here too. The baffling thing is how do they manage to stay in business long enough to screw so many people.
 
Iron Cat said:
That's a bummer, I been following his build for a while.i had a similar situation to his many years ago, some of these builders shouldn't be building a sandwich let alone an engine.
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So Fox shouldn't have been looking for a "Make me a sammich" girl, he should've been looking for a "Make me an engine" girl?
Seems right.
 
Iron Cat said:
That's a bummer, I been following his build for a while.i had a similar situation to his many years ago, some of these builders shouldn't be building a sandwich let alone an engine.
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Just remembered another thing we found today.....I am an anal fuck about engine bolts, nuts, etc. I do not like to use power tools to bust stuff loose or install them. I like to FEEL them. After removing a couple of rod bolts, I asked Mark to get a torque wrench. Tried tightening one rod bolt, then tried loosening another, they were at least 10psi too tight. 89 Fox used a small impact to break all the main cap bolts, but the gun would not budge one of them. I used the torque wrench to remove it......close to 15 pounds too tight. That stuff bothers me. I have 5 torque wrenches, and I have them all recalibrated every couple of years.
 
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itey said:
That sounds like what was in the packing gland on the prop shaft in a 30' Bayliner I worked on 50 years ago. Was that rope smaller in diameter than the rope seal in a 216 Chevy? I recall because it was on a weekend we couldn't get the official rope for the shaft seal and tried to use car engine rope seal but it was too big in diameter so we used some kind of twisted teflon rope like stuff and it worked OK.
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As 5/8" impregnated rope seal. Too tight on the packing would starve the cooling water allowed for shaft cooling. I always kept a nice steady drip allowance for cooling. Pump room was always dry. Pumps for domestic and fire suppressions. FDNY Black Seal certificates for operation. Had to complete monthly documented inspections. Along with daily logged matters. And the had to deal with FDNY Inspectors- randomly showing up..... Standpipe- and psi sprinkler tank system certs.
 
Mitch H said:
Just remembered another thing we found today.....I am an anal fuck about engine bolts, nuts, etc. I do not like to use power tools to bust stuff loose or install them. I like to FEEL them. After removing a couple of rod bolts, I asked Mark to get a torque wrench. Tried tightening one rod bolt, then tried loosening another, they were at least 10psi too tight. 89 Fox used a small impact to break all the main cap bolts, but the gun would not budge one of them. I used the torque wrench to remove it......close to 15 pounds too tight. That stuff bothers me. I have 5 torque wrenches, and I have them all recalibrated every couple of years.
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Did you guys check his rods ? Sounds like the builder put it together with an impact. I genuinely feel bad for Fox, I know when mine melted down after breakin, I wanted to walk off into an ocean.
 
Mitch H said:
Just remembered another thing we found today.....I am an anal fuck about engine bolts, nuts, etc. I do not like to use power tools to bust stuff loose or install them. I like to FEEL them. After removing a couple of rod bolts, I asked Mark to get a torque wrench. Tried tightening one rod bolt, then tried loosening another, they were at least 10psi too tight. 89 Fox used a small impact to break all the main cap bolts, but the gun would not budge one of them. I used the torque wrench to remove it......close to 15 pounds too tight. That stuff bothers me. I have 5 torque wrenches, and I have them all recalibrated every couple of years.
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Nope I never used electric or impact. Always by hand. Those TTY bolts give their sign once tension is released and you can start spinning shit apart.
 
itey said:
You trooolers are all big nothings but a bunch of TAWK HUAH...smoke is all you got.
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So you just come into every thread and act like a cat dick. And you wonder why you're the new Marcus.
 
RacinDuallie said:
Nope I never used electric or impact. Always by hand. Those TTY bolts give their sign once tension is released and you can start spinning shit apart.
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You ever torque a bolt, mark its location, break it loose then retorque it again and look where the mark is?
 
Mitch H said:
Just remembered another thing we found today.....I am an anal fuck about engine bolts, nuts, etc. I do not like to use power tools to bust stuff loose or install them. I like to FEEL them. After removing a couple of rod bolts, I asked Mark to get a torque wrench. Tried tightening one rod bolt, then tried loosening another, they were at least 10psi too tight. 89 Fox used a small impact to break all the main cap bolts, but the gun would not budge one of them. I used the torque wrench to remove it......close to 15 pounds too tight. That stuff bothers me. I have 5 torque wrenches, and I have them all recalibrated every couple of years.
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Check for chicken grease interference, mothafucka posted on DRP back in the day of that exact engine being stored in his kitchen.


Facts.
 
Steve439 said:
So Fox shouldn't have been looking for a "Make me a sammich" girl, he should've been looking for a "Make me an engine" girl?
Seems right.
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Wait, who got the sandwiches?
 
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