427 SBF

89 Fox 427 said:
That's good info. My dumb ass would have done something like that
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Lol. How do you think I know.
It's not hard to fuck up. In my case it was an adjustable cloyes and I had the bolt tight but not torqued as I was still fine tuning, lol. Put the heads on and planned on calling it a night but just had to give it one more turn 🤦‍♂️. I'll never forget the sound of that prick snapping. 🤬
Another time I was cleaning rings that I had just got done file fitting to the nearest 0.00000000001 😆, thin bastards, towel caught the ring as I was setting it down and broke the ring in half. Did it even need cleaned? No extras, can't buy just one, ffs. Same with custom pistons, might as well get 10, then you'll have a couple spares. Minimum diamond would make for me was 4.
Shit happens, and I'm what people call over anal. Dad would re cut a rough sawn board on the back of a shed that was out a 32nd in 14" and I'm worse than him 🤦‍♂️
 
BOSS#1540 said:
Single center bolt. Dowel aligns the sprocket
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That I understand. What I don't understand is why does the end-user have to install it? I have done many cams in my SBC stuff over the years and I never had to install the dowel pin. Maybe I paid the extra $1 or so........... You Furd guys, cheap-arses! :)
 
Are these the clowns that have a fuel pump eccentric that mounts on the front of the cam sprocket? If so, then I can see why they may have two different dowel lengths. Maybe.......... Dumb design if you ask me.
 
Mike Beck said:
That I understand. What I don't understand is why does the end-user have to install it? I have done many cams in my SBC stuff over the years and I never had to install the dowel pin. Maybe I paid the extra $1 or so........... You Furd guys, cheap-arses! :)
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Lol.
lots do come installed. Then if it's the wrong length you get to attempt to pull it 😆🤣😭
One piece and two piece fuel pump eccentric used different lengths, change in '72 I think.
 
Mike Beck said:
Are these the clowns that have a fuel pump eccentric that mounts on the front of the cam sprocket? If so, then I can see why they may have two different dowel lengths. Maybe.......... Dumb design if you ask me.
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Why would an efi clown care 🤷‍♂️😉
 
Mike Beck said:
I don't think Chrysler or GM ever had a fuel pump eccentric that had to be attached to the front of the cam gear. They had it as a lobe on the cam.
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Did it last longer than the rest of the lobes. Cam eaters 😎

I've never allowed my hands to be soiled by either of the brands you mentioned 😆🤣😭
 
BOSS#1540 said:
Did it last longer than the rest of the lobes. Cam eaters 😎

I've never allowed my hands to be soiled by either of the brands you mentioned 😆🤣😭
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We don't have cam lobe problems. Well, I am not a cheap-ass and have never run anything that wasn't a roller cam.

And the newer stuff, JUNK! There should never, ever be a design that deactivates lifters. There should never, ever be a way to change cam timing while it is running! That shit is just going to fail at some point.

Gimme simple and stupid, matches my IQ, and Dom's too! He always says he has a mid-60's IQ. :)

Solid rollers for the win, right @Dom 332 ! :)
 
Mike Beck said:
We don't have cam lobe problems. Well, I am not a cheap-ass and have never run anything that wasn't a roller cam.

And the newer stuff, JUNK! There should never, ever be a design that deactivates lifters. There should never, ever be a way to change cam timing while it is running! That shit is just going to fail at some point.

Gimme simple and stupid, matches my IQ, and Dom's too! He always says he has a mid-60's IQ. :)

Solid rollers for the win, right @Dom 332 ! :)
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Just kidding. 305 cam eaters was a localized problem with bad cores wasn’t it?
I'm the same. Solid roller in everything except bronco because they didn't have a small enough lobe so it got a hydro roller. Carbs on everything because I can barely log onto a computer, but carbs still smarter than I'll ever be. Factory water pump, fan and brackets, lol. I'll give up power for simplicity and endurance, lol.
 
Mike Beck said:
We don't have cam lobe problems. Well, I am not a cheap-ass and have never run anything that wasn't a roller cam.

And the newer stuff, JUNK! There should never, ever be a design that deactivates lifters. There should never, ever be a way to change cam timing while it is running! That shit is just going to fail at some point.

Gimme simple and stupid, matches my IQ, and Dom's too! He always says he has a mid-60's IQ. :)

Solid rollers for the win, right @Dom 332 ! :)
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Yes sir :thumbup:
 
BOSS#1540 said:
Just kidding. 305 cam eaters was a localized problem with bad cores wasn’t it?
I'm the same. Solid roller in everything except bronco because they didn't have a small enough lobe so it got a hydro roller. Carbs on everything because I can barely log onto a computer, but carbs still smarter than I'll ever be. Factory water pump, fan and brackets, lol. I'll give up power for simplicity and endurance, lol.
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I ignore some of the engines GM made over the years, the 305 and 307 should never have existed......... ;)

You can always put a solid roller lifter on a hydraulic roller cam............

But I totally understand. KISS!
 
I filed the dowel instead of cutting because I'm a pussy.

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The put assembly lube on the rear of the retainer, and torqued the two bolts to 10ft lbs

This digital thing from harbor freight on the end of the click type is double insurance I think.

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Degree wheel I got from a member here, he must have been one of those Chevy guys because the ford crank bolt would not fit in the bushing so I drilled it out.

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I was told the advance was not ground into the cam. So I installed the dot to the triangle, not dot to dot.

This was against the advice of the PB.

Well it's at 107.25 degrees. I shall try dot to dot
 
For the record im using .020" before, and after peak lobe lift to come up with my measurements. This was advised to me in case of asymmetrical lobes this will be more accurate
 
89 Fox 427 said:
I was told the advance was not ground into the cam. So I installed the dot to the triangle, not dot to dot.

This was against the advice of the PB.

Well it's at 107.25 degrees. I shall try dot to dot
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Always listen to Steve439!

Unless he's wrong...

EDIT: And Darren too!
 
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