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My situation had nothing to do with anything other then dealing with a flat out crook. Live and learn- unfortunately I had to retake that class a few times before I passed. I grew up knowing a mans word was gold - that shit is a full out lie.


fuck me once shame on you, fuck me twice shame on me.
 
Thats how people get killed .

I know a concrete guy that got fucked . Not enough money in the account to cash the check but the girl said there almost is . He said how close is it she said $200 .so he deposited $200 in the account and cashed the check .
The deadbeat called him very pissed off . :lmao:


I did the same thing on a $7500 dollar check, to say the guy was pissed is an understatement. IIRC it cost me $850.
 
I can agree with that. The wealthier my client is, the harder it is to get paid. Always an excuse. “I forgot”. I design houses. When I work for young people building their first house, the first thing they want to know is if I want money up front and how do they pay for the design. Wealthy never ask because they already plan on not paying me. (Not always, just seems that way).

Lawyers and engineers. Charge them a lot extra and get the cash up front.
 
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+1 And the pious. If someone mentions his faith or his church during a business conversation, he pays up front. Part time ministers are the worst offenders so far.


I had a minister screw me over, I sued and had him served on Sunday morning in front of his whole congregation. I filed a lien on his house and collected it all.
 
Thats how people get killed .

I know a concrete guy that got fucked . Not enough money in the account to cash the check but the girl said there almost is . He said how close is it she said $200 .so he deposited $200 in the account and cashed the check .
The deadbeat called him very pissed off . :lmao:
I’ve nailed an invoice to a front door that cost more than the job I did. 16 sinker (one hitter and waffle mark too.) I still do work for the guy…. He’s come around.
 
Always the wealthiest clients as well as the “pillars of the community”!
in 1991 local guy was charged with defrauding Irish defense contractor Ferranti International for $1.18 BILLION USD. Members of his church defended him loudly in the local newspaper letters to the editor that he was pure as the driven snow and his numerous contributions to local charities and their church was proof enough of that and all his detractors were lying conspirators.
He wound up being sentenced to 15 years in prison alomg with several others, all his employees or associates.
His son and grandson have an environmental cleanup firm now, GSon owns several exotic supercars. Snuck into my permitted clean fill site and dumped hydroexcavating waste twice after being told twice by me that he was to never set foot on my property again under pain of prosecution because it was illegal - he did it to save per lb charges at the site that was proper for that waste, conned 2 of my customers into telling him it was OK do it and just have it charged to their accounts. I now regret not prosecuting him.
 
You won't find a industry that is different. Shawn and I did a quick count in the pallet rack back in the day. I had just under 150K in motors waiting to be paid for.

Just go to a place like here. There just aren't enough people in your trade, or any other construction trade.

Not trying to argue Mark because I agree with your post - just one thing..

That statement that " come here, there aren't enough good guys" thing seems that way to a lot of people when they look for work to be done ... and can't find anyone.

Problem is, it's not due to a shortage of good tradesmen that decided not to work anymore... It's more often actually a case of enough terrible customers / crooks / deadbeats / and jack-offs pissing off the good trades guys to say FUCK YOU AND WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU WANT DONE..!!! they can sleep and not get paid / sued / etc..

So, if there's an area that has an obvious lack of skilled and talented tradespeople - I always figure that there is a reason for that, and also decline any work ...

Just a different perspective..
 
Not trying to argue Mark because I agree with your post - just one thing..

That statement that " come here, there aren't enough good guys" thing seems that way to a lot of people when they look for work to be done ... and can't find anyone.

Problem is, it's not due to a shortage of good tradesmen that decided not to work anymore... It's more often actually a case of enough terrible customers / crooks / deadbeats / and jack-offs pissing off the good trades guys to say FUCK YOU AND WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU WANT DONE..!!! they can sleep and not get paid / sued / etc..

So, if there's an area that has an obvious lack of skilled and talented tradespeople - I always figure that there is a reason for that, and also decline any work ...

Just a different perspective..

I'm not looking for anyone to do anything....other than a clinical trial that might keep my wife alive for a few more years. Everything else can wait. One of my sons does construction and everyone he knows does, so I'm pretty familiar. Travek is like most around here. Backed up about a year.

While we're discussing it though, My experience, and I have a lot of it, is that every contractor on the planet thinks he is the shit. 90% of those are shit. Not quite what they think they are.

Seller and buyer are the same shit on opposite sides of the card. You just keep dealing until to get an ace. Contractors, parts guys, doctors, lawyers......all the same game.
 
Lawyers and engineers. Charge them a lot extra and get the cash up front.
I did just that a couple times. I had a local builder ask me to do his design work. I told him I would think about it. This guy was from Greece. I talked to another builder that I worked for and asked him if he knew anything about this Greek dude. He told me he has a bad habit of hiring subs for a few jobs and then screwing them over, then he would just move on to the next sub. He said that people from that part of the world do business that way, it’s just normal to screw someone if they can. I was new in business at the time so I wanted the work. I just raised my hourly rate to him. I did about 6-7 jobs for him and then he wouldn’t pay me for the last one. I told him I didn’t care because he already paid me. I did the same thing to another Greek guy, and he pulled the same thing.
 
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