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James Joyce said:
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Western PA is more midwest than IL.
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Since I've been in California most of my life, it has seemed weird to think of The Dakotas, Nebraska and Kansas as anything WEST. I had to think of when the term Mid-West was first used.....that was when anything west of Illinois, Pennsylvania and New York was just the "west".
 
Kern Dog said:
Since I've been in California most of my life, it has seemed weird to think of The Dakotas, Nebraska and Kansas as anything WEST. I had to think of when the term Mid-West was first used.....that was when anything west of Illinois, Pennsylvania and New York was just the "west".
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During the Civil War, Missouri was considered the West.

My relative lives in Napa, CA. And they would tell everyone we were from back east. Unknowing to them, that is a huge insult to someone from the Midwest.

Back east to us were New York, Massachusetts, etc.
 
James Joyce said:
During the Civil War, Missouri was considered the West.

My relative lives in Napa, CA. And they would tell everyone we were from back east. Unknowing to them, that is a huge insult to someone from the Midwest.

Back east to us were New York, Massachusetts, etc.
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There weren't many states at the time past Missouri so it was the west to the rest of the country
 
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